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Yack Em wins A/R-OAK Upper Championship!

SUN 6/6 (1:30PM) -- Back on 5/30, Yack Em beat Thunder in a championship repeat, to take the A/R-OAK crown. Here's the team photo...


Mike Hoang, Kit Sivilay, Edwin Pineda, Bobby Syvanthong, Jeremey Kharnsavong, Andy Hsieh, Logan Phanthavong, Kevin Kwon, Steven Kham

Here's the final bracket...



Alameda Ballaz win A/R-OAK Lower Championship!

WED 5/26 (8:45PM) -- Congrats to the Alameda Ballaz, who beat the Dragons for the Lower A/R-OAK Championship. If there's a team photo, please email it to me so I can post it. Here's the final A/R-OAK Lower bracket...



Upper Playoff Brackets to conclude on 5/30

WED 5/26 (8:30PM) -- Yack Em forced a Repeat Championship against Thunder, and both teams agreed to play on 5/30, per available gym time. It will be played at 1p at TFRC (see SCHEDULE page)...



Playoff Brackets for A/R-OAK

TUE 5/18 (11:59PM) -- In the Upper Bracket, we're down to our Final Three on 5/23. Should there be a Repeat Championship in the event Thunder loses on 5/23, we will have a discussion between the remaining two team captains and figure out when to play the final Repeat Championship...



In the Lower Bracket, we're down to the one-and-done Championship showdown between the Dragons and Alameda Ballaz...



WED 5/12 (8:00AM) -- First, let's discuss the Upper playoffs. We have four teams remaining in the Losers Bracket. Normally, we match the highest against the lowest seed, but in this case, that would yield a repeat matchup: #1 Dream vs #8 Special. Since a repeat matchup this early in the playoffs would render the first meeting irrelevant, we move to the next-highest seed, while ensuring the other side of the Losers Bracket doesn't result in a repeat. We get this: #1 Dream vs #3 Wolfpack. That leaves #2 Yack Em vs #8 Special, which is not a repeat.

These matchups really don't matter in the grand scheme of things because it's a mini-final-four, the winners play each other to get one survivor out of four teams. So, we can avoid the repeat and we will. We will also end up with one team in the Losers Bracket to be joined by the loser of the Winners Bracket game. That leaves us with the Final Three teams ready to go for 5/23. If we need a Repeat Championship, we'll either do it 5/30 or 6/6, which overlaps into the beginning of the next season -- we'll cross that bridge later if we have to...



In the Lower Playoffs, we still have the same thing from last week's post, since we took 5/9 off. Scroll down to last week's post for details.

WED 5/5 (8:00AM) -- So we have two separate playoff brackets: Upper, which is double-elimination for all, and Lower, which is single-elimination, as explained in the previous post. Let's look at the Upper Bracket first...



We now have 5 teams in the Losers Bracket. We need to whittle that down to 2 by the end of this Sun 5/9, because we'll add the two losers from the Winners Bracket games. That will give us four LB teams, which we on 5/16 whittle down to one, and we're in position to get the bracket done by 5/23. If we need a Repeat Championship, we'll have to figure that out later, but we'll probably need to schedule it for 5/30 Memorial Weekend or the week after. The Winners Bracket, meanwhile, for 5/9 should be fairly straightforward.

Here are the Upper Bracket games for 5/9...

Upper-p2-WB: #8 Special K at #5 Cereal Killers
Upper-p2-WB: #6 Thunder at #2 Yack Em
Upper-p2a-LB: #9 FTNU at #7 Team Starz
Upper-p2b-LB: Winner-FTNU/TmSt at #1 DreamCrushers A/R
Upper-p2-LB: #4 Grey Goose at #3 Wolfpack (OAK)

In the Lower Bracket, it's a straight single-elimination bracket, so we can take 5/9 off for Mothers Day, as follows...



A/R-OAK FINAL STANDINGS THRU 4/26
Southwest W LPCTGB
Grey Goose430.571--
Team Starz430.571--
Alameda Ballaz340.4291.0
We Out Hurr340.4291.0
Southeast W LPCTGB
DreamCrushers A/R610.857--
Special K430.5712.0
Team K250.2864.0
Dragon250.2864.0
Pacific W LPCTGB
Wolfpack (OAK)520.714--
Cereal Killers520.714--
New Hope250.2863.0
The Agents160.1434.0
Central W LPCTGB
Yack Em610.857--
Thunder520.7141.0
FTNU430.5712.0
Tone Team070.0006.0
Playoff seeds for A/R-OAK Upper/Lower determined

WED 4/28 (3:00PM) -- We'll start with the seeds for the Upper bracket, which will be double-elimination for all teams, whereas the Lower bracket will be single-elimination for all teams there...

A/R-OAK UPPER BRACKET (ALL DOUBLE-ELIMINATION)
1. Dream Crushers A/R (6-1) -- won Southeast Conf, won s-o-v (13.3) vs Yack
2. Yack Em (6-1) -- won Central Conf, lost s-o-v (12.0) vs DCAR
3. Wolfpack (OAK) (5-2) -- won h2h vs CKs, won Pacific Conf
4. Grey Goose (4-3) -- won h2h vs TmSt, won Southwest Conf
5. Cereal Killers (5-2) -- lost h2h vs WPO, won h2h vs Thun
6. Thunder (5-2) -- lost h2h vs CKs
7. Team Starz (4-3) -- won h2h vs SpcK, won s-o-v (10.8) vs FTNU
8. Special K (4-3) -- lost h2h vs TmSt, won s-o-v (7.5) vs FTNU
9. FTNU (4-3) -- lost s-o-v (4.8) vs TmSt/SpcK

Let's go through the tiebreakers one by one. Remember, we had basically the Southwest and Southeast as our morninger group and the Pacific and Central as our afternoon/evening-er group. Morningers never played against afternooners in the regular season. Therefore, the first two NFL tiebreakers after W-L record (head-to-head and record vs common opponents) were rendered useless, so we resort to the NFL's "strength of victory" tiebreaker, which Dream League interprets as point differential in games won. In Dream League, we also cap point differentials at 20 since we believe a 30-point blowout shows no more information than does a 20-point blowout.

So when we compare DCAR with Yack, we have to go to strength-of-victory. DCAR gets the nod with their 13.3 average point diff in games won vs Yack's 12.0.

In a four-team conference format, we give the top four seeds to the conference winners. Sometimes that's good, sometimes that's bad. It is what it is.

Also in an NFL-style tiebreaker system, you first determine who's on top within your group, then you compare to the outside. So, with Wolfpack beating Cereal in the regular season, Cereal cannot finish higher than Wolf. Since Thunder didn't win their conference, finishing behind Yack, Thunder needs to get compared with Cereal and Thunder lost that head-to-head. Therefore, Cereal is next after the conference winners at #5 and Thunder is #6.

With the ties at 4-3, we first check the head-to-heads and we see that Starz beat Special K, therefore Special cannot finish higher than Starz. With FTNU in the opposite group in terms of morninger/afternooner, we must resort again to strength-of-victory to determine that FTNU had a worse point diff in victories when compared to Starz, as well as Special K. And that's how we get Starz at #7, Special K at #8, and FTNU bringing up the rear at #9.

This is most profound for Special K, whose head-to-head loss to Starz has now proved costly in that the winner of #8 vs #9 must immediately play #1.

Here are the matchups for 5/2 in the Upper...

Upper-p1a: #9 FTNU at #8 Special K
Upper-p1b: Winner-FTNU/SpcK at #1 DreamCrushers A/R
Upper-p1: #7 Team Starz at #2 Yack Em
Upper-p1: #6 Thunder at #3 Wolfpack (OAK)
Upper-p1: #5 Cereal Killers at #4 Grey Goose

Here are the seeds for the Lower Bracket...

A/R-OAK LOWER BRACKET (ALL SINGLE-ELIMINATION)
1. Alameda Ballaz (3-4) -- won h2h vs WOH, "won" Southwest Conf
2. Team K (2-5) -- "won" Southeast Conf, won h2h vs Drgn, won s-o-v (10.5) vs Hope
3. New Hope (2-5) -- "won" Pacific Conf, lost s-o-v (7.0) vs TmK
4. Tone Team (0-7) -- "won" Central Conf
5. We Out Hurr (3-4) -- lost h2h vs AlBa
6. Dragon (2-5) -- lost h2h vs TmK
7. The Agents (1-6)

In the Lower Bracket, we continue the winner-per-conference theme, but in essence the conference "winners" didn't actually "win" their conference, they just ended up on top of the others after the .500-and-above teams entered the Upper. But still, you take one from each conference again, which is why Tone Team got the #4 seed despite having the worst record (this can be interpreted as getting beat up by the strong teams in the Central).

The Alameda Ballaz edged out We Out Hurr with a head-to-head win over them, so they get the #1 seed and, as a result of having 7 teams, get a first-round bye since there's no #8 seed here.

That means We Out Hurr drops all the way to #5, but lo and behold they get to face the winless Tone Team, so you see, sometimes things turn out okay (on paper).

We have these matchups for 5/2...

Lower-p1: bye: #1 Alameda Ballaz
Lower-p1: #7 The Agents at #2 Team K
Lower-p1: #6 Dragon at #3 New Hope
Lower-p1: #5 We Out Hurr at #4 Tone Team

I will not be updating the roadmap anymore since I've already listed the matchups for 5/2 and, starting next week, I'll put the brackets up.

WED 4/21 (3:00PM) -- Only one makeup game from 4/18, but standings updated nevertheless. See roadmap below for matchups for 4/25 as we close out the regular season.

TUE 4/12 (8:00PM) -- Standings thru 4/11 updated. Also the roadmap per last week's changes.

WED 4/7 (9:15AM) -- Standings thru 4/4 games updated.

TUE 3/30 (3:30PM) -- Standings updated, thanks to Tony.

WED 3/24 (11:30AM) -- Moved 3/28 FTNU-TheA makeup game to 4/18, per request of The Agents. That means the doubleheader day (makeup) for FTNU and TheA is obviously now 4/18. Roadmap below updated.

TUE 3/23 (2:00PM) -- Updated standings, thanks to Tony (and Wylie last week). Updated roadmap due to 3/21 FTNU vs The Agents being moved (currently to 3/28, but who knows, FTNU is so in flux that I may need to move that out further).

FRI 3/19 (7:30AM) -- Updated roadmap, see list of updates on RH side of table below, due to WOH 9a-11a request for 3/21.

THU 3/18 (11:15PM) -- New standings and roadmap below. Please scroll down. Note: previous posts may be now irrelevant.

Jump down to previous posts pertaining to A/R-OAK

DateWkCodeMatchupComments
2/281se7 at se8DreamCrushers A/R at Special K
2/281sw1 at se5Alameda Ballaz at Dragon
2/281sw2 at sw4We Out Hurr at Grey Goose
2/281se6 at sw3Team K at Team Starzto 4/4
2/281c7 at c8Thunder at Yack Em
2/281p1 at c5Wolfpack (OAK) at Tone Team
2/281p2 at p4Cereal Killers at New Hope
2/281c6 at p3FTNU at The Agents
3/72se5 at sw2Dragon at We Out Hurr
3/72se6 at se8Team K at Special K
3/72sw1 at sw3Alameda Ballaz at Team Starz
3/72sw4 at se7Grey Goose at DreamCrushers A/R
3/72c5 at p2Tone Team at Cereal Killers
3/72c6 at c8FTNU at Yack Em
3/72p1 at p3Wolfpack (OAK) at The Agents
3/72p4 at c7New Hope at Thunder
3/143sw4 at sw1Grey Goose at Alameda Ballaz
3/143sw3 at se7Team Starz at DreamCrushers A/R
3/143se5 at se6Dragon at Team K
3/143se8 at sw2Special K at We Out Hurr
3/143p4 at p1New Hope at Wolfpack (OAK)
3/143p3 at c7The Agents at Thunder
3/143c5 at c6Tone Team at FTNU
3/143c8 at p2Yack Em at Cereal Killers
3/216sw1 at se6Alameda Ballaz at Team K
3/216se8 at sw4Special K at Grey Goose
3/216se7 at se5DreamCrushers A/R at Dragon
3/216sw3 at sw2Team Starz at We Out HurrWOH 9a-11a
3/216p1 at c6Wolfpack (OAK) at FTNU
3/216c8 at p4Yack Em at New Hope
3/216c7 at c5Thunder at Tone Team
3/216p3 at p2The Agents at Cereal Killers
3/285sw2 at se6We Out Hurr at Team K
3/285sw3 at sw4Team Starz at Grey Goose
3/285se5 at se8Dragon at Special K
3/285se7 at sw1DreamCrushers A/R at Alameda Ballaz
3/285p2 at c6Cereal Killers at FTNU
3/285p3 at p4The Agents at New Hope
3/285c5 at c8Tone Team at Yack Em
3/285c7 at p1Thunder at Wolfpack (OAK)
4/4hholidayEASTER HOLIDAY -- MAKEUP WEEKEND
4/41se6 at sw3Team K at Team Starzto 4/4
4/114se8 at sw3Special K at Team Starz
4/114sw2 at sw1We Out Hurr at Alameda Ballaz
4/114se6 at se7Team K at DreamCrushers A/R
4/114sw4 at se5Grey Goose at Dragon
4/117p4 at c6New Hope at FTNU
4/117p1 at c8Wolfpack (OAK) at Yack Em
4/117p2 at c7Cereal Killers at Thunder
4/117p3 at c5The Agents at Tone Team
4/187sw4 at se6Grey Goose at Team K
4/187sw1 at se8Alameda Ballaz at Special K
4/187sw2 at se7We Out Hurr at DreamCrushers A/R
4/187sw3 at se5Team Starz at Dragon
4/184c8 at p3Yack Em at The Agents
4/184p2 at p1Cereal Killers at Wolfpack (OAK)
4/184c6 at c7FTNU at Thunder
4/184p4 at c5New Hope at Tone Team
4/181c6 at p3FTNU at The Agentsdh
4/25p1playoffs1Upper-playoffs1: TBD
4/25p1playoffs1Lower-playoffs1: TBD
5/2p2playoffs2Upper-playoffs2: TBD
5/2p2playoffs2Lower-playoffs2: TBD
5/9p3playoffs3Upper-playffs3: TBD
5/9p3playoffs3Lower-playoffs3: TBD
5/16p4playoffs4Upper-playoffs: Last LB Game
5/16p4playoffs4Upper-playoffs: Championship
5/16p4playoffs4Lower-playoffs: Last LB Game
5/16p4playoffs4Lower-playoffs: Championship
5/23p5playoffs5Upper-playoffs: Repeat Championship (if necessary)
5/23p5playoffs5Lower-playoffs: Repeat Championship (if necessary)
5/30hholidayMEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND -- MAKEUP GAMES
5/30ssignupsSIGNUPS FOR 2010 SUMMER SEASON
6/6nnewNEW SEASON STARTS -- 2010 SUMMER

A/R-OAK UPDATES:
3/10 - first post core dump
3/18 - first draft posted
3/19 - swap Wk#6,4 (WOH 9a-11a 3/21)
3/23 - move FTNU/TheA from 3/21 to 3/28
3/24 - move FTNU/TheA from 3/28 to 4/18
4/7 - swap p/c Wk#7,4 per Yack spec req

LEGEND:
Wk = code for block of games
Date = actual date of Matchups
Code = matchups based on team #s
Matchup = description of matchups
Comments = comments
green = moved from another Wk/Dt
red = moved to another Wk/Dt
* = (asterisk) home/away reversed

BYES: Byes are only allowable
under special circumstances.

If you have a bye later in the season
that is not a formally requested bye,
due to gym fluctuations and other
unforeseen circumstances, that bye is
not locked down; that week's block
of games can still be shuffled around
as necessary until you formally request
that week to be a bye for your team.

GROUND RULES:
1. Please make sure the number of
red rows (games moved from) equals
the number of green rows (games
moved to).
2. Make sure you have 7 regular
season games listed with your
team name.
3. The last 1 or 2 of 7 regular
season games are usually encoded
as inter-conference or other
special type of matchup.
4. The playoffs are pretty much
nailed down, barring unforeseen
circumstances (i.e., no byes!)
5. Any special late bye requests at
this point will require permission
from other teams to shuffle them
around.
6. Special late bye requests can
*usually* be accommodated if your
team plays a double-header some
other week. But sometimes it
depends on if your opponent is
also stuck with a double-header.

#gymteam namebyesfo
sw1oAlameda Ballaz4/4
sw2oWe Out Hurr
sw3oTeam Starz
sw4oGrey Goose4/4
se5oDragon
se6oTeam K
se7oDreamCrushers A/R
se8oSpecial K4/4
p1oWolfpack (OAK)4/4
p2oCereal Killers
p3oThe Agents4/4
p4oNew Hope4/4
c5oTone Team4/4
c6oFTNU4/4
c7oThunder4/4
c8oYack Em


Previous posts pertaining to A/R-OAK roadmap

THU 3/11 (12:30AM) -- The A/R-OAK has 16 teams which I have divided into two groups of 8, then further into four groups of 4. The 8+8 is based on morningers and afternooners. We have these conferences...

SOUTHWEST CONFERENCE
Alameda Ballaz
We Out Hurr
Team Starz
Grey Goose

SOUTHEAST CONFERENCE
Dragon
Team K
DreamCrushers A/R
Special K

PACIFIC CONFERENCE
Wolfpack (OAK)
Cereal Killers
The Agents
New Hope

CENTRAL CONFERENCE
Tone Team
FTNU
Thunder
Yack Em

...the Southwest and Southeast play generally in the first 6-hour timeframe, the Pacific and Central the last 6-hour timeframe. Therefore, if you are a morninger team and you make a special request for a night game, for example, you are probably out of luck.

Anyways, each group of 8 plays the other 7 teams once for your 7-game regular season. It's pretty straightforward. However, there's are two caveats. On 2/28, Team K vs Team Starz and FTNU vs The Agents effectively all took byes, so they may have to makeup their games with doubleheaders later in the season. We'll have to figure that out as soon as I figure out the strategy with 4/4 Easter in the next few days.

Here's the core dump until I can figure out Easter 4/4, then I'll pretty it up in table format...

2/28
DreamCrushers A/R at Special K
Alameda Ballaz at Dragon
We Out Hurr at Grey Goose
Team K at Team Starz TO BE MADE UP LATER IN SEASON
Thunder at Yack Em
Wolfpack (OAK) at Tone Team
Cereal Killers at New Hope
FTNU at The Agents TO BE MADE UP LATER IN SEASON

3/7
Dragon at We Out Hurr
Team K at Special K
Alameda Ballaz at Team Starz
Grey Goose at DreamCrushers A/R
Tone Team at Cereal Killers
FTNU at Yack Em
Wolfpack (OAK) at The Agents
New Hope at Thunder

3/14
Grey Goose at Alameda Ballaz
Team Starz at DreamCrushers A/R
Dragon at Team K
Special K at We Out Hurr
New Hope at Wolfpack (OAK)
The Agents at Thunder
Tone Team at FTNU
Yack Em at Cereal Killers

TBD (DEPENDS ON RESOLUTION OF 4/4 EASTER)
Special K at Team Starz
We Out Hurr at Alameda Ballaz
Team K at DreamCrushers A/R
Grey Goose at Dragon
Yack Em at The Agents
Cereal Killers at Wolfpack (OAK)
FTNU at Thunder
New Hope at Tone Team

We Out Hurr at Team K
Team Starz at Grey Goose
Dragon at Special K
DreamCrushers A/R at Alameda Ballaz
Cereal Killers at FTNU
The Agents at New Hope
Tone Team at Yack Em
Thunder at Wolfpack (OAK)

Alameda Ballaz at Team K
Special K at Grey Goose
DreamCrushers A/R at Dragon
Team Starz at We Out Hurr
Wolfpack (OAK) at FTNU
Yack Em at New Hope
Thunder at Tone Team
The Agents at Cereal Killers

Grey Goose at Team K
Alameda Ballaz at Special K
We Out Hurr at DreamCrushers A/R
Team Starz at Dragon
New Hope at FTNU
Wolfpack (OAK) at Yack Em
Cereal Killers at Thunder
The Agents at Tone Team



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